After Andrea
My introduction to this year’s Best American Erotica 2006 is a memorial piece, titled
“After Andrea.”
I'm referring, of course, to Andrea Dworkin, who died last year, leaving many mixed feelings behind her.
I'll be reading from Dworkin's work— yes, you read that right! — on Jan. 28th, at the San Francisco Public Library, at an event in homage to writers who died the past year:
Writers Remembered 2006
A Celebration of the Writers Who Died in 2005
January 28, 2006
1 - 4 PM
Koret Auditorium, Main Library
Dworkin and I had a history as political adversaries, the opposite ends of radical feminism. Still, I always thought we had some unique things in common.
She had to be the only other person in the world besides me who would step off a plane in any country and say, “What does the pornography look like here?” We both found porn to be a prescient cultural lens.
When I looked at BAE this year, I wondered... how many of the authors in this story collection were directly influenced by AD? How many were inspired to 'roll their own' after sampling her wares? I looked at their names and saw that at least half of them must remember rather vividly being on the wrong end of the AD's firing squad.
I decided to ask all of them, "What— if anything— of Dworkin's influence made a difference with you?"
Sera Gamble: “The Clay Man”
Here’s the thing: I don’t remember the days. AD's first book came out before I was born. While you were facing the firing squad, I was teething. I guess I have inherited your legacy.
For a time, I was “stripping my way through college,” as they say. Most men were polite, the occasional man was rude – but the ones that really bugged me kept sitting me down and trying to explain to me that I was being exploited.
Every couple of weeks some earnest guy would lay it out for me. I didn’t believe I was being exploited at all – I was setting my own hours, making decent money, and my boss supplied a giant dude who watched to make sure my physical boundaries weren’t violated. I felt like I was having a big adventure.
I kept asking these men – where are you getting this? And they didn’t know where they got it. They’d just heard this “theory of sex work” and done their part to assume it was gospel.
Finally, in a Women’s Studies class, I read Dworkin. I was like, you’ve got to be fucking kidding me. But obviously she wasn’t. Those earnest guys? They thought they’d help, maybe even educate me by spouting the “feminist” view to the confused young stripper.
I grew up not really understanding why older people, of my parents’ generation, were so dismissive of “feminists.” I assumed they were struggling with the basic idea of gender equality, but what they were struggling with was this one loud woman’s view of things.
Dworkin represented so radical an opinion that most people could barely relate to it beyond feeling attacked. But somehow she came to define the whole idea of feminism for many people. Sadly, as often happens, the shrillest voice in the room got heard by the most people.
My copy of Whores and Other Feminists is dog-eared. I read as much of that “sex-positive” stuff as I could find – and then I started writing my point of view. I got up on my own little soap-box and let loose: that all this victim-y talk was offensive to me, and that trying to “protect” women by limiting their sexual freedom was such a blindingly bad idea that the only truly shocking thing was that we were even still talking about it.
I’m older now, and I’ve climbed off the crate. But I am still interested in these issues, still trying to figure out what feminism really is, what it means, if I even am a feminist, why it matters so much to me.
I guess this means that Dworkin had a whopping effect on me. Sometimes the journey of a lifetime begins with one lady pissing you off.
Tom Perrotta: “Little Children: A Novel”
Andrea Dworkin gets a direct mention in "Little Children." My main character, Sarah, was a feminist in college, and wrote a paper called "The Normalization of Abuse: Patriarchy and Marital Rape" under the influence of Dworkin and McKinnon.
The irony is that, for all of her hard-line feminist training, Sarah finds that she still clings to certain romantic fantasies about love and sex that her college self would have laughed at.
I'm not sure Dworkin had much of a direct influence on me, even as someone to be challenged. If you were a straight man, it seemed like you had to basically give up sex to get on her good side. As with joining the priesthood, that seemed like a pretty high price to pay.
Stephen Elliott: “Bad Education”
You know, I don't think Dworkin affected me much. As a former sex worker I've always been pro-sex work, pro-pornographer, pro-prostitution. So I've been on the opposite end of her. I believe in freedom first, then ideas, then legislation.
I was fortunate to start writing erotica after the infamous pornography wars had died down, so the biggest influence on me was the explosion of erotica anthologies that fed my newfound desire to write smut.
Would this explosion have happened without such a heated discussion about sex, what it is, what it means? I did not have the visibility at that point to be on any end of a firing squad, but I loved watching the cultural shit go down -- like a really hot mud-wrestling match between tough-ass women.
I think any analysis of violence owes Dworkin, no matter how much people agree or disagree with the specifics of her argument. I love that I have to trouble myself about the dark sexuality and pseudo-violence in my work: to ask where it comes from, what it feeds on, what it feeds, if it's going to engender bad things.
What I sincerely appreciate about Dworkin is that she never dropped the bullhorn about how heinous rape and sexual violence are, when our culture continually encourages a bystander syndrome about such things.
Vinnie Rose, aka Mr. Sleep: “Beatings R Us”
Hahaha....you're kidding right? I do a site that's a paean to unrestrained degeneracy... what would you think I'd think of Dworkin? In response to her comment that every act of heterosexual sex is an act of rape, I usually said then as I say now: And...?
James Williams: “The End”
I found Dworkin's political stand offensive, threatening, and repellent. It's dangerous to women as well as to men, dangerous to free speech and free thought, dangerous to intimacy, dangerous to trust, dangerous to individual liberty, dangerous to creativity— dangerous, in fact, to the lives and well-being of me and nearly everyone I love, value, and respect.
I see a similarity between Dworkin's positions and those propounded by Janice Raymond in her infamous 1979 book The Transsexual Empire. Raymond was (is, I suppose) also an intelligent women who seemed to have been born on the wrong side of the bed and had it in for a whole population of people she neither agreed with nor made any serious effort to understand.
In her book, she asserted that transwomen were merely men who were so antifeminist and determined to take over women's lives that they were ready to sacrifice their genitalia to do so; that medical and psychological professionals who helped them were in on the conspiracy or abetting it; and that transmen were simply traitorous women.
Though some of her manifesto was justified by the infant state of transgender identity studies at the time (The Harry Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association was formed the same year her book was published, and Benjamin's own seminal book The Transsexual Phenomenon had been published only a decade earlier), she retracted none of it when her book was reissued in the mid or late 1990s.
Both Raymond and Dworkin took some highly individual concern they could see expressed somewhere in society— and generalized so broadly they ended up talking in cartoon terms about cartoon issues.
They became radical social fundamentalists and missed the moon for their self-interested fascination with the finger. In Patrick Laude's terms, they replaced "the awesome depths of the Mystery with a flat surface of barren forms," and found such fault with opinions that differed from theirs, that in excoriating tolerance and diversity they became self-idolators. By solidifying and identifying with their egos they became merely brutal fanatics.
Again, quoting Laude, "The enemy of fundamentalists is always 'outside,' never 'within,' which allows the soul to 'play God' and judge and destroy whatever resists its totalitarian reduction."
Gwen Masters: “15 Minutes”
I was first introduced to Andrea Dworkin's work about ten years ago, when I wrote an article on feminism in college. I was completely taken aback by her.
It took quite a bit of research to get past what was being said about her versus what she actually said. That was an education in and of itself, when I learned the depth of how words can be taken completely out of context, and how those with the power of the media can flip a story in whatever direction they please.
I came to respect Andrea Dworkin, even if I did not agree with her on many issues. I respected her for having the fortitude to stand up for what she believed in, even if it meant she would be vilified for it. I think she knew that was happening, weighed her options, and decided speaking out was more important than giving a damn about mudslinging.
By attacking her, her critics simply proved her points. How satisfying!
The best thing I took away from her work was this: It is more important to be relevant than to be popular. I try to remember that when it comes to my own work. Do I want to say something? Or do I just want to be popular? I've decided that I want to say something. And it is a harder road to walk, but it is a much more satisfying one.
Bianca James: “Paradise City”
Dworkin was before my time. I came of age in the bay area reading books by people like Susie, or Carol Queen, in lieu of Dworkin. My first paid sex-writing job was writing fiction for Barely Legal when I was twenty, thanks to my mentor who'd held a job at Hustler in the early nineties. I never faced any resistance from my friends or family for doing it- even my mom thought it was funny.
Bob Vickery: “High Risk”
I’ve only had a nodding acquaintance with Dworkin’s writing. Her issues about the exploitation of women in pornography don't have much relevance to me as a writer of gay male erotica.
However, the relevance comes in when her issues of power imbalance in porn are given a wider context.
Before I first started writing erotica (in the early 1990's), I noticed that most of the gay stroke stories I read revolved around power imbalance (the cop and the criminal, the jailer and the prisoner, the sergeant and the raw recruit, the executive and the mail room clerk, etc.).
The common thread was one (weaker) character being coerced, physically or psychologically, into having sex with a more powerful character. Stories like that generally don’t do anything for me.
When I started writing my own stroke stories I set up scenes where the characters usually were pretty evenly matched; there may be tension in my stories, but there is never coercion. The characters enter into the sex for a variety of reasons, usually with gusto and enthusiasm, and in almost every instance, the power balance is evenly distributed (or, if not, at least it doesn’t become successfully exploited by the more powerful character).
I wrote a story once, "Driving," that of all my stories, most played with the issue of power imbalance. An out-of-work construction worker (I seem to have a thing for those guys) is forced to take a job as chauffeur to a wealthy older man. The older man tries to use his money and power to pressure the chauffeur into sex. The chauffeur refuses, quits his job, and later meets his ex-employer in a gay bar. Only when the two can meet on the chauffeur’s terms, where he’s riding in the back seat of the car issuing orders to the other man, will he let the situation become sexual.
Rachel Kramer Bussel: “The End”
I find it hilarious that I’m even answering this question. When I was a teenager, I’d certainly have given you a very, very different answer, from today. You can still find my name on the Andrea Dworkin supporters’ website—I did some coding or something for them when I was in college at UC-Berkeley in the mid-90's.
When I was growing up, I read a lot of Dworkin’s work and it made so much sense to me. I wanted to go back in time and be a 70's feminist.
On the other hand, I was just starting to come of age and hadn’t discovered sex or porn yet. When I did, it complicated things. I couldn’t see how you could live with the perpetual anger of an us-against-them mentality— meaning men versus women.
That being said, some of the things I learned from her and MacKinnon, the critique of privacy as a safe haven for women, the ways women are objectified across the board, were and are fascinating and important.
In the end, AD became a caricature of herself, in part because of her extreme divisiveness. There was never a sense of trying to form a common ground among feminists, which I think could have fostered a greater understanding of her work.
There’s a generation now of post-Dworkin feminists who’ve reclaimed so many arenas of sexuality, from burlesque to stripping to porn to erotic writing, and I’m honored to be a part of that.
Donna George Storey: “Ukiyo”
I’m forty-four now, which puts me at the end of the baby boom generation. I’m old enough to remember the excitement of “women’s liberation,” but not lucky enough to have been in the thick of it.
I consider myself a feminist, but I always felt a little behind the curve. I picked up a copy of Dworkin’s Intercourse in Japan in the mid-eighties (which was probably stocked for English conversation study and I’m sure most of the guys who bought it were pretty disappointed!)
I remember being impressed at her boldness, although I did not agree with all of her points, as I was just learning to appreciate the enjoyable parts of intercourse. Dworkin, Kate Millet, and Robin Morgan and all the feminist writers who pushed the envelope gave the rest of us an exciting sense of possibility of what we could think and say.
The repressive anti-porn phase, where Dworkin climbed into bed with Moral Majority, was useful in a different way because it helped me to articulate, at least to myself, why I wanted to be part of an open dialogue on the erotic.
I believe that the only way for women to become empowered sexually is for them to take an active role in creating the images and the fantasies that express our desires and experiences—that is, talking back to the traditional porn industry.
The other day at a holiday party I was telling someone about my forthcoming story in Best American Erotica 2006 and he said, “Well, I hope you don’t get type-cast as an erotica writer.” I was dumbstruck because this seems like such an outdated response. The existence of BAE, going strong after more than a decade, is itself proof that erotica is taken seriously as literature.
But to be realistic, I’m sure many more people out there still consider sex as unworthy of intelligent and serious (which can also be playful) attention. I disagree, and that’s why a nerdy, voted most-likely-in-the-class-to-become-a-librarian, good girl like me feels inspired and compelled to write on sexual themes. Whether Dworkin’s ghost would allow it or not, I believe any man or woman who “speaks the unspeakable” and tests taboos is carrying on the spirit of feminism.
Susie's Postscript:
I haven't actually decided WHAT to read at the library memorial event. Some of AD's poetry? Her fascinating stories about being mentored by Allen Ginsberg? Her super-violent, Sadeian passages from her novels? I'm not looking to do something mean or comical; I want it to be incisive, and powerful. I'm looking for the double-edge. Add that to the fact that we only have three minutes each! Any of you close readers of AD who have a suggestion, let me know!



Thanks for that Susie. I really think that, as a tribute, we need to put our heads together -- us sex positive feminists -- and write some kind of clarifications that address the history of this strand of feminist thought.
I'm always in shock at what I see among younger feminists and even women my age. It's like every thing I learned about feminism -- late 80s and through the 90s -- while in school has been forgotten.
One of my graduate school mentors used to have a feminist foremothers project. We had to study a feminist foremother in some depth and, while doing so, get a handle on the debates within the movement. A priceless endeavor and I can't thank her enough for the wisdom of creating that project.
Without that history of understanding the debates, feminists are just to keep doing the same things over and over again. So many of the things that break peole apart on other blogs -- like the recent meltdown about radical cultural feminism at Alas, a blog -- wouldn't be so freakin bad if we had some notions of what solutions others have come up with in the past.
But this constant insistance that you aren't a feminist if you like or support some kinds of sex.... well, it had me on a bit of a rampage for about 3 days!
Posted by: Bitch | Lab | January 17, 2006 at 09:05 AM
Jesus....I am so fucking funny I can't believe it. Whew....sorry. Carry on.
ciao,
Vinnie
Posted by: Vinnie Rose | January 17, 2006 at 03:45 PM
Susie Susie Susie I am looking forward to seeing a statue of you in Central or Prospect or Lincoln or Golden Gate Park. You will be naked and bronzed and holding some drape-like banner that covers all those parts Jesse Helms and John Ashcroft and Anthony Comtock couldn't bear to see, and you will wear a grin as wide as a Pepsodent advertisement's smile, and just like in the old New Yorker cartoon God will be pointing at you and saying "Remember: I made you in my image, and some parts of us are DIRTY!"
Posted by: James Williams | January 17, 2006 at 09:07 PM
...Or as Lenny Bruce once pointed out, if the body is dirty, then it's the fault of the manufacturer.
Personally, I'm waiting for the Susie Bright and Andrea Dworkin action figures - the talking models! :~)
Posted by: C.S. Lewiston | January 18, 2006 at 08:24 AM
I distrust absolutes. Dworkin was an absolutist.
What is the absolute truth? If it exists at all, then it probably lies within whatever we choose to do at a given moment. And then no longer.
Any action can be justified, regardless of how heinous or foolish it is in retrospect.
The brave man owns up to his heinous and foolish actions and does not try to justify them.
The coward blames his heinous and foolish actions on his circumstances or others.
It is human nature to hang responsibility for our heinous or foolish actions on someone or something else. If we did not, there would be no need for laws. Laws illustrate our cowardice.
I can see two paths to everlasting peace: inner vision or annihilation. As long as we look outside ourselves for that peace, we will fail to achieve it. We will fail in our quest to be whole humans.
But back to Dworkin and her pointing finger. As the saying goes, three fingers are always pointing back at you.
Fingers penetrate, too. They cause damages that penises can only hint at inflicting.
Posted by: Bill Brent | January 18, 2006 at 04:55 PM
I remember when Andrea Dworkin first impinged on my consciousness. It was shortly after Kate Millett had made an ass of herself by going to post-Shah Iran to mingle with the wonderful revolutionary mullahs -- only to be shocked, shocked when the decidedly non-feminist revolutionaries nearly had her killed.
I then saw Dworkin and MacKinnon, hard on the heels of this, and all I could think of at the time was: "Oh, geez, not another set of trust-fund ivory-tower academic feminists! Is somebody from the Moral Majority paying them to be this stupid?!"
People like Millett, Dworkin and MacKinnon are why one hears the constant refrain "I'm not a feminist, but..." Too many folk bought into the idea that being a feminist means being a silly-ass asexual man-hater with a head in the clouds. Thankfully, enough people like Susie Bright -- and even Camille Paglia, who in many ways is Dworkin's mirror-image, though Dworkin was a much better writer and scholar -- came to the fore to right the feminist ship before it sank on the rocks.
Posted by: Phoenix Woman | January 18, 2006 at 06:27 PM
It has probaly been 15 years since I read it, so I'm
not sure what my reaction to it would be now (and it is too late for me to reread it), but I remember this
piece seemed powerful to me at the time (even though
I didn't agree with all of it)
I Want a Twenty-Four-Hour Truce During Which There Is No Rape
http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/WarZoneChaptIIIE.html
Posted by: Steve Rhodes | January 19, 2006 at 01:27 AM
"I Want a Twenty-Four-Hour Truce During Which There Is No Rape"
I'm curious, why is it too late for you to re-read it?
I just read that article. Ms Dworkin does raise a few rather salient thinking points.
Pile a Twenty-Four-Hour Truce During Which There Is No Killing on top of the other one.
Posted by: C.S. Lewiston | January 19, 2006 at 10:39 PM
I so loathe the "not a feminist but"t-heads. At least AD was never one of those.
Posted by: Mister Nice Guy | January 21, 2006 at 02:08 PM
For whatever strange reason, lately I seem to be running into young, straight men--like, early twenties young--who've taken to Dworkin like a duckling to orange sauce. Which apparently makes them Radical Feminists (TM). (hey, their girlfriends say so, too, so then). It is quite an experience to be lectured by a straight boy about the terribleness of patriarchal sordidness (viz, porn, BDSM, high heels). Or how womens' orgasms *really* work--it's all about the clit, see, so, no penetration needed, really (apparently a smidgen of early Betty Dodson got in there with one of them). Apparently men are all about the rape fantasies. One must never forget this. And I'm all, "well, see, I wouldn't really know much about it, seeing as how I don't have much erotic interest in men; but, sounds harsh, dude. Sure glad you've given up on those awful patriarchal domination and hostility issues, though. Not to mention the creepy fixation on controlling womens' bodies and telling them what to think."
Well, at least two such young men, okay; and a virtual room full of such rather charmingly retro voices that I had been assuming were all female but now realize may not have been (see, we all make assumptions). I am devoutly hoping this is just some weird fluke and/or some personal karmic thing being worked out, and not an actual trend in the making.
Posted by: belledame222 | February 04, 2006 at 12:33 AM