Sex Survey, taken by Susie Bright during her lecture on "Feminism and the Erotic, at MTSU, Tennessee, Sept 29, 2005
Part Two! Look at yesterday's post for the basic statistics and women's questions.
Men’s Questions
Is waiting until after marriage still a moral value?
Can you get rid of a fetish?
As a Catholic, I find it hard to shirk many of my lessons learned and enjoy sex. Do you have a similar experience?
What is thought when you’re aroused by something that you do not agree with?
I believe homosexuality is wrong, but I have many friends who are homosexual. Does that make me hypocritical?
How does one release the taboo around sex? Make it more open and easer to talk about and experience without the anti-slut response?
What would a radical feminist response about current porn be now, as opposed to when porn was first coming out?
How do you make a woman feel really good?
Do you feel media consumerism preoccupied with sex is primitive, not progressive?
Have you ever been in a porn movie?
Do you think any porn out there is bad? Degrading? Filthy? Perverse? Towards women in general?
Why is porn still so taboo yet so popular?
What do you think of contact between human and animals?
Since this is the Bible Belt, did you tone down or self censor your thoughts in any way?
Would you consider pedophilia an appropriate form of sexual expression?
What do you think of Howard Stern?
I think sex is a private matter that should stay within the context of marriage only.
Some guys say they don’t masturbate, but what about when they ejaculate, anyway?
What’s your favorite sexual position?
Are you satisfied with your sex life?
Are you for, or against, gay rights?
I want to have sex, but I haven’t yet. I have not found the right person yet. What would you do?
How do you feel about “Suicide Girls?”
My greatest fantasy is sex with two women at once. Why is that so hard to find?
Did you fall into liberal sexuality to find your identity as a unique person, and then continued because it pays well? Do you feel like a tool of the far left?
What’s the kinkiest thing you’ve ever done?
What part of the day is best for having sex?
How many people have you had sex with?
Why do some women never have an orgasm?
What are good resources to read regarding porn vs. erotica?
How many people have you had sex with?
Are there less painful ways to have gay anal sex?
How do you think shows like “Sex and the City” have changed the view of sexuality, and is it a view that you agree with, or think women should?
What’s your favorite position?
Have you made love to a midget?
How many continents have you done it on?
What is considered explicit?
Have you decided yet whether your best experience is with a man or a woman?
Do you think people are really bisexual? Do you believe that?
How old were you when you first thad any kind of sexual experience with another human?
Do you know that God ordained sex as an art that is pure, and meant for only two people, male and female?
Why is it that girls deny masturbation?— when later you find out that they are doing it?
Sex as a word had a very distinct aura about it, at least publicly. Does that change over time?
What would you consider a healthy sex life?
Have You Done it? — How Many Times?
One question that came up a lot, especially with the young men, was ‘How many people have you— Susie— slept with?”
I get that question everywhere I go, among youthful audiences. It’s something students usually offer, to deflect attention from their questions about their own sex life or erotic thoughts. It puts the attention on me in a titillating way, and avoids anything vulnerable on their part.
The notion of how many notches you have on your belt, is the preoccupation of the sexually inexperienced. It’s the kind of thing you ask when you’re a virgin, or you’re just having your first partner-sex experiences. Older people, sexually experienced people, never ask me this question.
I felt preoccupied with the same question myself when I was young and had my first lovers. I was obsessed with how old I was, how old they were, whether I had an orgasm, and whether I thought I was in love. I kept a list in my diary. I kept my “records” in secret code, and the codes kept changing because my definition of “great sex” and “in love” changed with each new affair. About the second year of my love life, however my relationships grew more intimate, serious, and complicated. Heartbreak became an issue for the first time. I forgot about my list.
“Having sex”? I realized that could mean so many things, and have so many after-lives. I actually don’t know the answer to “how many” people I’ve “had sex” with, not because the number is so shocking, but because the quality, diversity, and nature of my erotic connections superseded the quantity. By that, I don’t mean that I’ve had superior sex— I’ve had as many bad or awkward times as anyone— it just means the numbers don’t tell the story.
The Rather Orgasmic Women of MTSU
My final observation about MTSU is the most surprising to me. This group had a really high number of orgasmic, masturbating women, compared to the schools I’ve surveyed in the last ten years. The school surveys I’ve done recently show that almost a quarter of the young women say they don’t have orgasms, or masturbate. Here at MTSU it was only 12-14%.
My first conclusion is that my talk just attracted all the “I’m a Sex-Positive Orgasmic Feminist, Dammit!” types at the school. But my talks generally do that, everywhere I go.
My second thought takes me to the recent survey we saw in the news this year, about how Chastity Pledges in the Bible Belt are not stopping young people from having sex, or getting married/preganant/divorced, any earlier than they would have without the Chastity Pledges. They’ve been a giant flop, except for 7th graders.
Repressive Christian antisex campaigns seem to force people to be sneaky, but sneaky sex is wildly popular. Virginity is revered, and yet routinely violated.
Sex in your teenage years is a double-edged deal. On one hand, coercion and peer pressure can be an ugly issue. In some cases, it’s debilitating.
On the other hand, teenagers have powerful sexual desires, and hormones a’plenty. If young women had more power, they’d certainly resist date rape and abuse more effectively, but they’d be just as certainly eager for orgasms, sexual excitement, and erotic power, just like the boys are.
This is the ironic thing: this group of women, statistically, is more sexually savvy and orgasmic than their peers in other types of universities, because they’ve already had some sexual experiences under their belts. Not just one night stands either, or drunken “what-the-hell” episodes. They’ve had sexual RELATIONSHIPS, where you get to practice enought to get good at it.
Conversations I Wouldn't Have at Harvard
One conversation I had with a young married woman of 24 illustrated this:
“Oh, I married when I was 20, and I have changed so much. I tell the girls who are 22 and engaged, ‘No, stop, you’re too young,’ because they have no idea how much it will change everything. My husband and I have been in love, we’ve had an open marriage, we’ve been separated, we’ve been back together, I’ve thought I was bi, now I’m not so sure. The sex is so much better now than it was when we first got together. But we’re still not sure what we’re going to do, even today... Because great sex and living together with someone are two entirely different things.”
Another 21 year old woman, who’s doing very well in school, asked me about how to address sex education with her first-grade daughter:
“I have no role models for what to do... Are you kidding? When I told my mother I was pregnant when I was 15, she said, ‘Oh God, it was your first time, right?’ And I said, ‘Uh, no.’ And then she said, ‘But at least you know who the father is, right?’ And again I had to say, ‘I’m not really sure.’ My mother raised us Pentecostal, and if she hadn’t been getting chemo when I told her, she would have killed me.”
She laughed—she had no angst. As she kept talking, I realized that she has a loving relationship with her family, and she has a lot of sexual self-confidence. She didn’t back then, she does now. It worked out over the years. She's a devoted mother, as well as student.
You compare this to a typical young woman I might meet through my research at an Ivy League university. She has had no sexual experience at age 21. She has a very romantic notion of what it’s going to be like. It’s unrealistic, just like a younger teen might have. She is likely to have wealthy parents and a moderate or liberal religious upbringing, if any at all. She is twice as likely to not have masturbated or achieved orgasm. She is very likely to have an eating disorder that has affected her libido and periods, a topic that didn’t come up once in my crowd at MTSU.
I hope you look at my comparisons with the same poignancy that I do. I don’t wish suffering or hardship on anyone, just because it gives you “maturity.” There’s no guarantee that sex at any age is going to work out one way or another. Young women everywhere are still much less sexually self-possessed than young men. The South is not some hotbed of wild orgasmic women— although that’s a inspiring fantasy!
Class and Sex ... What It Means to Be a Grown-Up
In some ways, the experience of the students of working-class origins at MTSU remind me of the Mexican-born high school students I recently interviewed in central California, the children of agriculture workers. They share, because of their family’s economics, a little more “adult” experience than the children of the well-to-do. They see sexual relationships, family, children, jobs, driving and getting yourself where you need to go, etc. , as equal parts of growing up, which is highly esteemed— in fact, essential.
While the middle-class or working-class Southern woman freshman might envy the Ivy League student’s luxuries of privilege and protection, the Ivy League girl wishes she had more sexual wisdom, independence, and self-knowledge that comes with actual relationship experiences, outside of her parents. She wants, and yet fears, being out of the cocoon.
Peter Pan Doesn't Make It
What *I* would like to see doesn’t exist in any region or class. I want young women and men to have chances to explore their genuine sexual feelings, with knowledge, creativity, and protection. I want their parents to give them privacy and respect and the stuff they need to protect themselves, whether that’s condoms or dignity.
Yes, I know this is a fantasy. But I have a kid too, and this is the only thing I can think of that makes sense.
I don’t want young people to have to get married and divorced to find out the first thing about sex. I don’t want them to get pregnant when they’re still babies themselves.
Yet I also don’t want them to be 30 years old and still wondering what an orgasm is, or if they can stop being ashamed of themselves for having sexual desire. I don’t want them to starve and never be sexual, or only understand sex as part of a black-out drinking episode.
My wish is not just a short-sighted desire for sexually fulfilled young people to get their jollies— although that deserves more respect than it gets. It’s heavier than that, though. We need to figure out sex in order to carry the mantle of our years. Peter Pan is incapable of being an elder, a mentor, or nurturer.
Sexually immature adults can’t imagine raising children, because they can’t deal with growing up themselves. They think of children as accessories, and we can see the mess that’s create. Do we always have to choose between shame-filled exploitation or infantile narcissism? There’s got to be a younger generation that can knock that rock and a hard place to dust.
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